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Flag in Exile Honor Harrington Series Book 5 David Weber 9780671876814 Books

This can only be a discussion rather than a review, because I've read this book far too many times to "review" it. Weber's Harrington is just beginning her naval career, fresh from her triumph "On Basilisk Station." She's about to meet the intransigently paternal, religious societies of Grayson and Masada, where Honor must serve with, and command, men who are ill-prepared to cope with strong, capable women.

Contrasting forces and philosophies abound in this novel: diplomacy vs. military action; strong religious beliefs vs. religious fanaticism; even environmental technology vs. Luddite anti-techs.

Diplomacy
Honor commands a task group in support of a diplomatic mission headed by once-Admiral Raoul Courvosier, whose mission is to bring Grayson into alliance with the Kingdom of Manticore. (At this point in Weber's Honorverse, although Manticore has a protectorate in the Basilisk system, it is still a single-system kingdom.) Honor can whole-heartedly support Courvosier, despite her suspicion that diplomacy is a sneaky way to achieve something, because she respects his tactical experience: "War may represent the failure of diplomacy, but even the best diplomats operate on credit. Sooner or later someone who's less reasonable than you are is going to call you, and if your military can't cover your I.O.U.s, you lose."

Others in the diplomatic mission are not as respectable; in fact, one of Honor's long-running enmities is about to develop as she deals with a nit-wit diplomat who seems to believe his touchy-feely assumptions about the Grayson-Masada conflict ought to be considered. In the character of Reginald Houseman, Weber was ahead of his times, writing about "snowflakes" before the type was recognized.

Religion
I often think of the opposed religious groups portrayed in this novel when see entire religions tainted by the perfervid actions of a tiny minority within them. Grayson's society may have a religion at its base, but it is also a balanced, constitutional polity. When we and Honor first encounter Grayson, women are treated more as near-adult children: they are to be protected, guided, and treasured. In contrast, Masada's women are chattel.

Many reviewers have cited the black-and-white nature of Weber's characters. Good guys are all good, bad guys are not just opposed, they are evil. So here in this novel, the Graysons are revealed as capable of learning to respect Honor and, by extension, others in the Manticoran navy who are, or are commanded by, women. "If Captain Harrington is as outstanding an officer as you believe—as I believe—she invalidates all our concepts of womanhood. She means we're wrong, that our religion is wrong. She means we've spent nine centuries being wrong."

Technology
Weber sets up the story of Grayson and Masada with a pair of ironies. First, Grayson was settled directly from Earth as a religious colony, pro-environment, anti-technology "true believers." Arriving at Yeltsin's Star, they find a lovely, blue-green world—that is poison to human life. They do not discover this fault until they havealready, literally, burned their boats. A second world in the Yeltsin system, Masada, with its less-welcoming climate, is now out of their reach.

The colonists spend generations battling their environment, gradually re-acquiring space flight, and needing the technology they had rejected back on Earth simply to survive. After a schism divides them into the few, fanatic "Faithful" and the larger original colony with their adapted belief in appropriate technology, Grayson decides to use their limited space flight to move the Faithful to Masada.

The Faithful on Masada could now re-abandon technology and revert to the original belief system. But they do not, because now they are focused on reclaiming the original world of the colony and substituting their belief for that of Grayson, whom they call "The Apostate."

I find the technology and religion themes comforting to re-read, especially as I am aware of how they will play out again in later novels in the series. With so many similar conflicts in today's news, I reflect, with David Weber, on the need for open discussion: "There are two sides to every dialogue, but if you accept the other side's terms without demanding equal time for your own, then they control the debate and its outcome."


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Flag in Exile Honor Harrington Series Book 5 David Weber 9780671876814 Books Reviews

This second book in the Honor Harrington series is just as good as the first and it has to be said that readers can quite quickly become lost within this universe. One of the huge draws in this series is the fact that David Weber has done a great deal of work to create a believable universe that is full of socio/political detail; strong characters that resonate with humanity as well as characters who demonstrate the ugly side of humanity (in this instance the Masadans who are an extremist off-shoot of Grayson's fundamentalist faith); plot-lines that are well developed and exciting as they unfold and of course the action is stellar and keeps the reader engrossed to the point it is hard to put the book down. As for Honor Harrington, I believe she is one of the strongest female characters in fiction - she is strong-willed, forceful, a brilliant tactician, she has one heck of a temper that can on occasion get her in trouble but she also has a certain vulnerability that the reader can't help feeling empathy for - it hurts her badly when friends and colleagues die around her but she holds that in, hiding the pain behind a mask of strength, making those around her think she is rather cold-hearted and above all she is a person who sticks to their principles - she represents the honor of Manticore. I also particularly liked the development of the Madasan and Grayson cultures - both practice a form of religious fundamentalism and are patriarchial societies - Honor struggles with their antiquated ideologies. However, both cultures while seeming the same, are in fact very different. The Masadans are extremist, reactionary and carry out appalling atrocities on some of the female crew of one of the Manticoran ships, but they really believe in what they are doing. The Grayson culture, while also patriarchal seems to have a degree of flexibility, enough for them to change thanks to some forward thinking by some of its leadership - of course the whirl-wind that is Honor Harrington helps change Grayson minds and helps Manticore and Grayson to form a strong relationship and alliance - much needed as Manticore's old enemy, Haven is backing the Masadans efforts to bring Grayson back to their original fundamentalist roots. I highly recommend this series to all sci-fi fans that love quality space opera.
this is the second time reading this book for me ,this is on kindel and the first time was in the 24$ hard back version with now way to review! if you are reading this review you are not needing any validation if you have started with the first in series( Basilisk station) and are dying to get on to the next book! (I bought them all in first issue hard back,because I couldn't wait for paperback) if you are looking to see if it can be a stand alone, IT ISN'T, go to the aforementioned Basilisk station and start there ! David Weber has some of the best space battle scenes ever written and all his books have several, the characters are all well thought out and you either love or hate them! since I have read all the series and the anthologies the were spauned over ten years ago and am buying the electronic versions now , I am going to say none are less than 4 1/2 stars and it will be some of the best entertainment you will enjoy!!!! but from now on I am just going to give it stars and no review as I reread them as I want to include to many of the plots and ruin the story!!!
This can only be a discussion rather than a review, because I've read this book far too many times to "review" it. Weber's Harrington is just beginning her naval career, fresh from her triumph "On Basilisk Station." She's about to meet the intransigently paternal, religious societies of Grayson and Masada, where Honor must serve with, and command, men who are ill-prepared to cope with strong, capable women.

Contrasting forces and philosophies abound in this novel diplomacy vs. military action; strong religious beliefs vs. religious fanaticism; even environmental technology vs. Luddite anti-techs.

Diplomacy
Honor commands a task group in support of a diplomatic mission headed by once-Admiral Raoul Courvosier, whose mission is to bring Grayson into alliance with the Kingdom of Manticore. (At this point in Weber's Honorverse, although Manticore has a protectorate in the Basilisk system, it is still a single-system kingdom.) Honor can whole-heartedly support Courvosier, despite her suspicion that diplomacy is a sneaky way to achieve something, because she respects his tactical experience "War may represent the failure of diplomacy, but even the best diplomats operate on credit. Sooner or later someone who's less reasonable than you are is going to call you, and if your military can't cover your I.O.U.s, you lose."

Others in the diplomatic mission are not as respectable; in fact, one of Honor's long-running enmities is about to develop as she deals with a nit-wit diplomat who seems to believe his touchy-feely assumptions about the Grayson-Masada conflict ought to be considered. In the character of Reginald Houseman, Weber was ahead of his times, writing about "snowflakes" before the type was recognized.

Religion
I often think of the opposed religious groups portrayed in this novel when see entire religions tainted by the perfervid actions of a tiny minority within them. Grayson's society may have a religion at its base, but it is also a balanced, constitutional polity. When we and Honor first encounter Grayson, women are treated more as near-adult children they are to be protected, guided, and treasured. In contrast, Masada's women are chattel.

Many reviewers have cited the black-and-white nature of Weber's characters. Good guys are all good, bad guys are not just opposed, they are evil. So here in this novel, the Graysons are revealed as capable of learning to respect Honor and, by extension, others in the Manticoran navy who are, or are commanded by, women. "If Captain Harrington is as outstanding an officer as you believe—as I believe—she invalidates all our concepts of womanhood. She means we're wrong, that our religion is wrong. She means we've spent nine centuries being wrong."

Technology
Weber sets up the story of Grayson and Masada with a pair of ironies. First, Grayson was settled directly from Earth as a religious colony, pro-environment, anti-technology "true believers." Arriving at Yeltsin's Star, they find a lovely, blue-green world—that is poison to human life. They do not discover this fault until they havealready, literally, burned their boats. A second world in the Yeltsin system, Masada, with its less-welcoming climate, is now out of their reach.

The colonists spend generations battling their environment, gradually re-acquiring space flight, and needing the technology they had rejected back on Earth simply to survive. After a schism divides them into the few, fanatic "Faithful" and the larger original colony with their adapted belief in appropriate technology, Grayson decides to use their limited space flight to move the Faithful to Masada.

The Faithful on Masada could now re-abandon technology and revert to the original belief system. But they do not, because now they are focused on reclaiming the original world of the colony and substituting their belief for that of Grayson, whom they call "The Apostate."

I find the technology and religion themes comforting to re-read, especially as I am aware of how they will play out again in later novels in the series. With so many similar conflicts in today's news, I reflect, with David Weber, on the need for open discussion "There are two sides to every dialogue, but if you accept the other side's terms without demanding equal time for your own, then they control the debate and its outcome."